Wednesday, December 27, 2006

* * * HIATUS * * *

It's been a while  -  we leave this morning for our one vestigial bluegrass festival, the New Year's Bluegrass Festival at Jekyll Island, Georgia.    It's a long 10-12 hour drive down there and we're gettin a little tired of making it.    Problem is, we've got these great seats right down front at the corner of the stage and if we don't go every year we'll lose them.    Hm-m-m-m-m.

We're still uncertain whether we'll be back by this coming Monday or sometime later in the week.    We thought about spending a little time in Savannah after the festival just knocking around and seeing the sights  -  but neither of us seems to be very enthusiastic about it at the moment.    I guess we'll see.

This is a little different than our music trips to West Virginia.    We know the folks that sit around us and return year after year, but it's not the same as seeing our 'music family' in West Virginia.    That's where some of the best folks in the world hang out.

Oh yeah, DNA.    We still have one 25 marker coupon left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!    If someone wants that before it expires on the 31st just let Carol know and she'll help you through it.    Actually, we also still have the two $15 mtDNA coupons left, too, but I wouldn't recommend them.    If you're interested in mtDNA I'd advise taking a look at Argus Biosciences whose regular prices beat FTDNA's even with the coupon.

Tuesday, December 26, 2006

Black Christmas

Not the season to commemorate this milestone.

Photo courtesy The Memory Hole.

2,973 people died in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

     Since we invaded Iraq on March 20, 2003

               2,975 U.S. service members have been killed in

                    "W"'s War.

Click here to Think Peace

Monday, December 25, 2006

Merry Christmas

You may open these gifts now -

Sunday, December 24, 2006


Last evening my grandson Art and I decided we'd take a look at some of the Christmas lighting decorations around Winchester.    Here's a sampling of what we found -

The winner - ◊

Still one 25 marker coupon left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!    Better hurry!

Friday, December 22, 2006

Culpeper Co. Berrys, again

The Culpeper Co. Berrys continue to be in the news.    Ken, #80, got his final installment on his 67 marker test yesterday.    Fortunately, (or maybe unfortunately, I'm never sure which) no surprises there (but aren't slight differences interesting?).    He became so inspired that he turned right around and ordered his DeepSNP-R1b test to try to narrow down his subclade and posssibly the historical origins of his line.

I haven't checked closely but I don't think that there are any more Culpeper Co. Berrys tests outstanding so I went ahead and ran distances and cladograms, etc.    They'll be on the Project website but I'll also post them here.

As usual, first the markers -
Then their distances -
And the Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor -These times look long because they are given as a 95% probability.

Finally, the cladograms -

By the way, if you'd like to review any of the previous postings on the Culpeper Co. Berrys simply type the word 'culpeper' in the Freefind Search box at the left and it will list them all for you.

Remember, only one 25 marker coupon left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!    Better hurry!

Thursday, December 21, 2006

DNA and the Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings Story

Ken Berry, #80, (Culpeper Co. Berrys) has been getting 'stealth' results.    I reported yesterday that his Y-DNA61-67 results had arrived.    Well, last night, again without any notice, his Y-DNA38-47 markers were posted.    His last group, the (apparently difficult) Y-DNA48-60 Markers remain outstanding.

Now to the film.    This is a long one, but very interesting and well worth your time.    A good lesson on the utility of Y-DNA.
Dr. Eugene Foster, former professor of Pathology at the University of Virginia, discusses the role of DNA in investigating the Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings story.    The claim that Thomas Jefferson fathered children with Sally Hemings, a slave at Monticello, first came to light while Jefferson was president, and it has remained a subject of discussion and disagreement for nearly two centuries.    In 1998, Dr. Eugene Foster of the University of Virginia used DNA tests to investigate the claim.    It has been several years since Dr. Foster and his collaborators published the results of the their DNA study of the paternity of Sally Hemings' children.    However, there is still a lot of controversy about the signfiicance of the DNA findings.    Dr. Foster explains why he began his research into the paternity of Sally Hemings' chldren, how DNA analysis can help determine paternity, and how the scientific evidence illuminates the claim that Thomas Jefferson fathered at least one of Sally Hemings' children.

This film courtesy Roots Television.

Notice that in the credits at the end one of the videographers was listed as Stephen Berry Production Services, Richmond, Va.    Anyone know this Stephen?    Can we get him in the Project?

Still only one 25 marker coupon left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!    Better hurry!

Wednesday, December 20, 2006

a bit of new results & New Members!

Kenneth Ray Berry, #80, and a member of the Culpeper Co. Berry family recieved his Y-DNA61-67 results yesterday evening.    This is one of the three panels that had been delayed to January 5.    He still has his Y-DNA38-47 and Y-DNA48-60 panels overdue.

Two new members!    Our 87th and 88th members!    Mike Berry, #68, signed up his cousin Ken Berry as #83 for a Y-DNA25 test and used one of the coupons, and Anne Young sent in Kevin Berry's Relative Genetics results.    Kevin is a cousin of Robert Leo Berry, #75, and together they make up a NEW Berry family, the Rockingham Co. Berrys.    Kevin will be participant #84.

Hm-m-m-m-m.    Bad news for me.    Notwithstanding FTDNA gave me an Expected Results date of November 17 for my advanced DYS marker tests, and notwithstanding they didn't adjust that date a couple weeks ago when the did their wholesale revision, it looks like my hopes may be dashed anyhow.    I just saw this response on the Genealogy-DNA list from Thomas Krahn, the head guy for their new Houston lab where I believe these tests are to be conducted:   "I expect to be back in Houston by mid January.    Then the FTDNA lab will really switch to production scale.    Right now we just do the full mtDNA sequences in Houston."

Only one 25 marker coupon left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!    Better hurry!

Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Oral History  -  part five

I don't see any indication that the current DNA drought is going to break anytime soon.    It has been two weeks since we received any results.    We do have two new participants but all that can happen with them in the near future is that their kits get returned and an anticipated Results date some time in February or March is posted for them.    Not too exciting.

I might as well go ahead and post today's movie before I go to bed rather than wait until morning.    You will remember, of course, that for lack of other news I've been posting a series of five short movies on Capturing the Past:  How to plan, conduct and preserve oral history.

So, complete with its commercial, here's the final topic, Part five, 'Preserving the Interview' -

The Project also has two 25 marker coupons and two mitochondrial coupons left in the FTDNA Xmas Special!

Monday, December 18, 2006

Oral History  -  part four

I haven't seen any notice that the labs have closed for Christmas but you wouldn't know otherwise by the flow of results showing up.   Or rather, NOT showing up.    Of course, mine are the only ones now delinquent since they 'bumped' everyone else's ahead a month or so.   Maybe that's why I'm so anxious.   Although, I don't expect anything special from these markers, DYS434, DYS435, DYS485, DYS495 and DYS643.   I just ordered them from FTDNA's Advanced Order menu as fill ins.

So, it's another movie from the series on Capturing the Past:  How to plan, conduct and preserve oral history.

I'm afraid that this one also starts with the usual commercial but here's Part four, 'Conducting the Interview' -

The last topic in the series will be 'Preserving the Interview'.   Be sure to come back for that.

Another reminder, don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now - only two 25 marker and two mitochondrial coupons are left.

Sunday, December 17, 2006

Oral History  -  part three

Well, DNA news has become a wasteland.   Don't know whether it's the season or just that the labs seem to be having all kinds of problems getting things to work or getting things done on time.

So, I guess it's another of the series of five short movies on Capturing the Past:  How to plan, conduct and preserve oral history.

And, sorry about the commercial, here's Part three, 'Preparing for an Interview' -

The next topic will be 'Conducting the Interview'.   At the rate news is 'pouring' in, it's liable to be sooner than later.

Don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   We have two 25 marker and two mitochondrial coupons left but they will EXPIRE on December 31st.

Saturday, December 16, 2006

Oral History  -  part two

As you know, I've come across a series of five short movies on Capturing the Past:  How to plan, conduct and preserve oral history.

Again, with apologies for the commercial, here's Part two, 'Planning the Interview' -

The next topic will be 'Preparing for an Interview'.   Be sure to tune in.

In the meanwhile, don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   We still have two 25 marker and two mitochondrial coupons are left.

Friday, December 15, 2006

Oral History

I've come across a series of five short movies on Capturing the Past:  How to plan, conduct and preserve oral history.   I can't promise to have a new one each day, but I'll try.   Hopefully, DNA stuff may interfere from time to time.

With apologies for the commercial, here's the first one, 'Introduction to Oral History' -

Next time, 'Planning the Interview'.

In the meanwhile, don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now - two 25 marker and two mitochondrial coupons are left.

Thursday, December 14, 2006

new news

A new member!   Michael Beery's, #69, (distant?) cousin, Richard George Beery, #82, has just joined the Project with a Y-DNA37 order!   You may remember that Michael was our only Hap G participant.   I would expect that now we'll have two.

And don't say that I didn't warn you!  --   Both of the FTDNA Xmas Specials for the Y-DNA37 kits have now been used.   We still have two $20 coupons for use with Y-DNA25 orders and the two $15 coupons for use with mtDNA orders.   Please don't delay  -   don't decide after they're all gone!

and now, the news . . . . . . .

DNA project to track migrations of indigenous tribes put on hold
New York Times News Service 12/10/2006

SOUTH NAKNEK, Alaska  -  The National Geographic Society's multimillion-dollar research project to collect DNA from indigenous groups around the world in the hopes of reconstructing humanity's ancient migrations has come to a standstill on its home turf in North America.

Billed as the "moon shot of anthropology," the Genographic Project intends to collect 100,000 indigenous DNA samples.    But for four months, the project has been on hold here as it scrambles to address questions raised by a group that oversees research involving Alaska natives.

At issue is whether scientists who need DNA from aboriginal populations to fashion a window on the past are underselling the risks to present-day donors.    Geographic origin stories told by DNA can clash with long-held beliefs, threatening a world view some indigenous leaders see as vital to preserving their culture.

They argue that genetic ancestry information could also jeopardize land rights and other benefits that are based on the notion that their people have lived in a place since the beginning of time.

"What if it turns out you're really Siberian and then, oops, your health care is gone?" said Dr. David Barrett, a co-chairman of the Alaska Area Institutional Review Board, which is sponsored by the Indian Health Service, a federal agency.    "Did anyone explain that to them?"

Such situations have not come up, and officials with the Genographic Project discount them as unlikely.    Dr. Spencer Wells, the population geneticist who directs the project, says it is paternalistic to imply that indigenous groups need to be kept from the knowledge that genetics might offer.

"I don't think humans at their core are ostriches," Wells said. "Everyone has an interest in where they came from, and indigenous people have more of an interest in their ancestry because it is so important to them."

But indigenous leaders point to centuries of broken promises to explain why they believe their fears are not far-fetched.    Scientific evidence that American Indians or other aboriginal groups came from elsewhere, they say, could undermine their moral basis for sovereignty and chip away at their collective legal claims.

"It's a benefit to science, probably," said Dr. Mic LaRoque, the Alaska board's other co-chairman and a member of the Turtle Mountain Chippewa Tribe of North Dakota.    "But I'm not convinced it's a benefit to the tribes."

The pursuit of indigenous DNA is driven by a desire to shed light on questions for which the archeological evidence is scant.    How did descendants of the hunter-gatherers who first left humanity's birthplace in East Africa some 65,000 years ago come to inhabit every corner of the Earth?    What routes did they take?    Who got where, and when?

As early humans split off in different directions, distinct mutations accumulated in the DNA of each population.    All non-Africans share a mutation that arose in the ancestors of the first people to leave the continent, for instance.    But the descendants of those who headed north and lingered in the Middle East carry a different marker from those who went southeast toward Asia.

The first large effort to collect indigenous DNA since federal financing was withdrawn from a similar proposal amid indigenous opposition in the mid-1990s, the Genographic Project has drawn quiet applause from many geneticists for resurrecting scientific ambitions that have grown more pressing.    As indigenous groups intermarry and disperse at an ever-accelerating pace, many scientists believe the chance to capture human history is fast disappearing.

"Everyone else had given up," said Mark Stoneking, a professor at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.    "If they get even a fraction of what they are trying for, it will be very useful."

From Lawrence Mayka on the GENEALOGY-DNA list  --  "This reporter needs to go back to journalism school.    There is literally a world of difference between American bureaucracy and a truly global project.    The Genographic Project has certainly *not* "come to a standstill."    In the worst case, Genographic might simply give up on Alaska -- a very small part of the world as a whole.    Alaska has about 1% of the world's land mass and about 0.01% of the world's population."

And finally  --  I do an internet Christmas card each year.    It's much too early now, but here's a tease . . . .

Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Major Delays at FTDNA

These announcements showed up yesterday for the already past due DNA orders:

For the two delinquent Y-DNA48-60 Markers orders -
The members of the laboratory at the University would like to offer our sincere apologies for the recent delays in the results of the advanced marker panels.   I would like to assure you that we literally have our most experienced people working around the clock to solve this problem.    In order to perform the testing for the number of individuals and the number of markers that we provide, complex tests must be designed.     These reactions test multiple regions simultaneously.    Over the past several weeks two of our reactions have been producing results that do not pass our quality control standards.    Unfortunately these reactions contain large numbers of components, and while we are usually able to correct these problems within 7 to 12 days the "re-optimization" process is taking much longer than usual.    We have ordered replacements for all of the primary chemical components and will be working to provide all of the outstanding data as soon as possible.    If this date is passed we will update the expected date again.    Once again I apologize for any inconvenience that this delay may have caused.    Sincerely, Matthew E. Kaplan
with a new estimated result date of December 31, 2006.

For Kenneth's Y-DNA38-47, Y-DNA48-60 and Y-DNA61-67 Markers order -
The lab has been delayed because of problems with the other marker panels.    We apologize for the delay and expect results to be returned around this date.    If they are delayed pass this date, we will update the status.
with a new estimated result date of January 5, 2007.

So, the upshot is that the new 'revised' schedule is -
Product Test Name Batch EstResultDate
DYS434 DYS434 Jim,#7 174 11/27/2006
DYS435 DYS435 174 11/27/2006
DYS485 DYS485 174 11/27/2006
DYS495 DYS495 174 11/27/2006
DYS643 DYS643 174 11/27/2006
Y-Refine25to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers Walter,#34 167 12/31/2006
Y-Refine37to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers C. E.,#77 170 12/31/2006
Y-DNA67 Y-DNA38-47 Markers Kenneth, #80 173 1/05/2007
Y-DNA48-60 Markers 173 1/05/2007
Y-DNA61-67 Markers 173 1/05/2007
mtDNARefine HVR2 Mary Ann Lasley Lewis, #m4 182 1/22/2007
Our original schedule is here.

As I mentioned yesterday  --   One of the FTDNA Xmas Specials has now been used.   Don't delay  -   don't decide after they're all gone!

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Hooray!   Project news!

A new upgrade and a new member!   Michael Beery's, #69, 12 marker results are being upgraded to 37!   You may remember that Michael is our only Hap G participant.    In addition, Charles Milton Berry has joined the Project with a Y-DNA37 order.   It will be interesting to see who he might match.

I've also done a little work on the Culpeper Co. Berrys who we looked at recently but before Jonathan had all his 67 marker results returned.    Here are all their markers compared to the modal -

Next, their genetic distances -
Notice that the additional markers for Jonathan did not change their distances.   That's because there were no differences from Edward on those additional markers.   I'm not going to change this table to account for our 'Non-recLOH Event Multi-copy Marker Distance Counting Protocol'.    You can look back at the previous post for that.   Actually, I'd like some thoughts from any of you who are interested whether you think the 'Protocol' applies to these mutations and, if so, whether I've applied it correctly.

Then the max time to most recent common ancestor, in years - 75% probability -

And finally, their cladogram -
One of the reasons I might now question the application of the 'Protocol' is that it seems like it should also show up on the cladogram.    Of course, I don't know that much about interpreting cladograms either.    I have Colleen Fitzpatrick's book, Forensic Genealogy, on my Christmas list.    Maybe I'll get it and maybe it will teach me something about cladogram interpretation.    If not, I'll ask Colleen.

And what do they know about their yAncestry?
Still looking for that person out there who fits the modal and appears to have been their common ancestor.    That's where we have to go back to real genealogy where we dig through the records.

Woops!  --   What did I tell you?   One of the FTDNA Xmas Specials has now been used.   Don't delay  -   don't decide after they're gone!

Monday, December 11, 2006

Genes may help predict infidelity

Genes may help predict infidelity, study reports

Nov. 30, 2006
Special to World Science

The chance that in­fi­del­i­ty will in­trude on a ro­man­tic re­la­tion­ship may be part­ly writ­ten in the cou­ple’s genes, a stu­dy has found.   The re­sults sug­gest a DNA test could tell a man the rough chances his fe­male part­ner will cheat on him, though it would­n’t nec­es­sar­i­ly work the op­po­site way.

The study found that wom­en act less pas­sion­ate­ly toward — and are like­li­er to cuck­old — part­ners who share genes with them in a spe­cial part of the ge­nome.   This may in part re­flect an ev­o­lu­tion­ary mech­a­n­ism to re­duce in­breed­ing, the in­ves­ti­ga­tors spec­u­lat­ed.

In­fi­del­i­ty touches about half of all coup­les, mar­ried or not, ac­cord­ing to Not Just Friends, a 2002 book by psy­chi­a­trist and in­fi­del­i­ty re­search­er Shir­ley Glass.   And last year, sci­ent­ists re­ported that one in 25 dads may be rais­ing ano­ther man’s child.

In the new stu­dy, re­search­ers with the Uni­ver­si­ty of New Mex­i­co, Al­bu­quer­que, fo­cused on a set of genes that past stud­ies have im­p­li­cat­ed in a link be­tween sex­u­al at­trac­tion and ge­net­ic sim­i­la­ri­ty.

The clus­ter of genes is termed the ma­jor his­to­com­pat­i­bi­li­ty com­plex, or MHC.   The genes, on hu­man Chro­mo­some 6, are in­volved in im­mune re­sponses.   The study is the first “to test the hy­poth­e­sis that MHC sim­i­larity pre­dicts as­pects of ac­tu­al hu­man sex­u­al re­la­tion­ships,” the re­search­ers wrote.   The find­ings ap­peared in the Oc­to­ber is­sue of the re­search jour­nal Psy­cho­log­i­cal Sci­ence.

MHC genes pro­duce mo­le­cules that en­a­ble cells to rec­og­nize in­tru­sive par­a­sites.    The mo­le­cules and the genes are ex­treme­ly di­verse and fast-evolv­ing.    Bi­ol­o­gists think these traits may be ev­o­lu­tion­ary mech­an­isms to help or­gan­isms stay a step ahead in the arms race with par­a­sites.

This may al­so ex­plain past stud­ies sug­gesting that hu­mans and an­i­mals pre­fer mates with dissi­m­i­lar MHC genes, ac­cord­ing to some sci­en­tists. Such a pre­ference might help as­sure that off­spring have a wide range of im­mu­ni­ty genes in the hol­ster, giv­ing them an edge over pa­th­o­gens.

Studies have even point­ed to a pos­si­ble route by which peo­ple sub­con­scious­ly as­sess potential mates’ MHC com­pat­i­bil­ity:  smell. In the mid-1990s, re­search­ers found that peo­ple sniff­ing T-shirts worn by oth­ers tended to pre­fer the odor of those whose wear­ers were least like them in this ge­netic re­gion.

Sev­er­al years lat­er, sci­en­tists linked si­m­i­lar pre­ferences to sex­u­al fi­del­i­ty in birds.     Il­le­git­i­mate chicks in three spe­cies of typ­i­cal­ly mo­nog­a­mous shore­birds showed up most­ly in the nests of gen­ti­cally si­m­i­lar par­ents, in­ves­ti­ga­tors found—al­though it was­n’t clear wheth­er the ma­jor his­to­com­pat­i­bi­li­ty genes spe­ci­fi­cal­ly played a role.    The study ap­peared in the Oct. 10, 2002 is­sue of the re­search jour­nal Na­ture.

The new study ech­oes el­e­ments of both pre­vi­ous stud­ies.

The researchers stud­ied 48 male-fe­male cou­ples who were ei­ther dat­ing “ex­clu­sive­ly,” by their de­scrip­tion, or mar­ried or liv­ing to­geth­er.

As the pro­por­tion of MHC genes the cou­ple shared in­creased, “wom­en’s sex­u­al re­spon­siv­ity to their part­ners de­creased, their num­ber of [out­side] sex­u­al part­ners in­creased, and their at­trac­tion to men oth­er than their pri­ma­ry part­ners in­creased,” the re­search­ers wrote in a pa­per de­scrib­ing their find­ings.

Two quantities were almost equal on av­er­age, ac­cord­ing to Chris­tine Garver-Apgar, the study’s lead au­thor:  the frac­tion of MHC genes shared, and the wo­man’s num­ber of extra part­ners.    In oth­er words, if the man and woman had half the genes in com­mon, the woman would have on av­er­age near­ly half a lov­er on the side.

But these ten­den­cies were found on­ly for wom­en; men’s at­trac­tion and like­li­hood of cheat­ing ap­peared un­re­lat­ed to the genes, the re­search­ers wrote.   Nor did these mol­ecu­lar sta­tis­tics seem to af­fect other aspects of re­la­tion­ships.   “MHC shar­ing,” the sci­ent­ists wrote, “does not broad­ly pre­dict re­la­tion­ship sa­tis­fac­tion.”

Don't think we can test for these . . . . . . . . . . . . yet.

Don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now - don't decide after they've been taken!

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Were They Sisters? - applied mtDNA

Sorry about the commercial  :(

Please don't call it 'genetealogy'!   Genetic genealogy works just fine and requires no translation.

And  --   don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now  -   Strike while the iron is hot  -   don't decide after they're gone!

Saturday, December 09, 2006

FTDNA opens European Branch iGENEA

With 120,000 individual entries in its DNA databases, Houston-based Family Tree DNA claims to be the largest DNA databases for genealogical purposes in the world, and it also administers more than 3,700 individual surname projects containing some 58,000 unique surnames.

This week, the company simultaneously opened its first European office and international version of its Web site offering versions in Deutsch, Français, Español, Italiano and English.   See it here.

With headquarters in Zurich, the new office  -  operated by iGENEA  -  will offer customer support and news in Spanish, French, Italian, German and English, while providing local shipping and payment in European currencies.

“Opening this new office is just the latest company expansion designed to improve services to our customers,” says Family Tree DNA President Bennett Greenspan.  “It solves the problem of our international clientele preferring to pay for our products in their specific country’s currency or in euros and being able to write an e-mail or pick up the phone to ask a question in their own language.”

This is good news!  This should increase the number of folks testing from Europe and increase the chances of our finding cousins who stayed behind!

Again, don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now - don't decide after they're gone!

Friday, December 08, 2006


I owe Michael Curtis Berry, #78, an apology.   His mtDNA HVR1 results came in on October 2nd and I completely missed them.   Sorry, Michael.   They're posted now on the mtResults page.   But Michael, and everyone who hasn't yet done so, you really ought to go to your FTDNA Personal Page, click on the 'Setup Preferences' tab and select your matches to be set against the entire database.

Let's see, that would be Bobby, #3, Walter C., #6, David James, #11, David Wilson, #13, Walter G., #14, Frederick, #15, Richard, #16, William Thomas, #17, the family (Daniel, Kenneth, James and Robert) ##23, 24, 25 & 26, James Arthur, #29, Carmen, #32, Floyd, #53, Norman, #74, and Michael.   Or tell me to and I'll do it for you.

While we're tidying up, Edward Jay Berry, #71, (Karen Berry Lewander) please give me a current email address.   Your '' is bouncing.   Also, the email address for Madelyn Larkin at '' failed.

Another reminder.   Please check periodically to see that you've uploaded to ySearch any new markers you may have gotten.   This doesn't happen automatically, only semi-automatically.   You don't have to type the numbers in but you do have to click the 'Click here to upload to' line in the 'Y-DNA Matches' tab on your FTDNA Personal Page.   If that line's not there, no worry.   You've already done it.

And finally, don't forget the FTDNA Xmas Special!   Act now - don't decide after they're gone!

Thursday, December 07, 2006

Pearl Harbor Day  
when we knew what we were fighting for

Time US revisited its real values
Martin Wolf - Financial Times

US VOTERS have now repudiated those who sought to impose democracy by force abroad.    George Bush is still president but he is damaged political goods.    Change is desperately needed.    The signal feature of this administration has not been merely its incompetence, but its rejection of the principles on which US foreign policy was built after the Second World War.    The administration’s strategy has been based, instead, on four ideas:   the primacy of force; the preservation of a unipolar order; the unbridled exercise of US power; and the right to initiate preventive war in the absence of immediate threats.    The response to the terrorist outrage of September 11 2001 reinforced the hold of all these principles.    The notion of an indefinite and unlimited “war on terror” became the fulcrum of US foreign policy.

It led to the idea of an “axis of evil” connecting Saddam Hussein’s Iraq to theocratic Iran and Kim Jong-il’s North Korea.    It brought about the justified invasion of Afghanistan, but also the diversion into Iraq.    The idea of the war on terror led to the indefinite imprisonment of alleged enemy combatants without judicial oversight, toleration of torture, the extraterritorial prison at Guantanamo Bay and, by indirect means, the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

All this has been bad enough.    It is made worse by what John Ikenberry of Princeton University and Charles Kupchan of Georgetown aptly describe as the “sloppy intelligence, faulty judgment and ideological zealotry” that marked implementation, above all in Iraq.

The poor implementation is not an accident.    A belief in the primacy of the military led to the transfer of responsibility to the department of defence; a belief in the efficacy of force created the conviction that victory meant peace and a swift transition to democracy; and disdain for allies created the absence of co-operation in postwar occupation.

The US must now start again.    It must design a foreign policy for the current age. In doing so, it should discard almost everything the Bush administration has proclaimed.

First, the aims of foreign policy go far beyond the “war on terror”.    Equally important are maintenance of a prosperous world economy, management of the rise of great powers and economic development, not least in the Islamic world.

Second, military power is far less effective than its supporters suppose.    The threat of force cannot change the policies of other great powers, except to make them more suspicious of US intentions.    It must make potential enemies more determined to obtain nuclear weapons.    As Iraq has shown, vast power cannot even impose stability on a country of 21-million.

Third, the legitimacy of the US as a global power rests on its ability to command the respect of other countries and peoples.    Gerhard Schröder could not have won an election in 2002 on an anti-American platform if the German people’s confidence in the US had not been undermined.    Yet more important, the war against jihadi terrorists is a war of ideas.    It will be won not by fear, but by making the west’s values more attractive to hundreds of millions of Muslims than those of its fanatical opponents.    The willingness of this administration to treat the rule of law as an optional extra has made it far more difficult to defeat the terrorist ideology in the long run.

Fourth, multilateral institutions matter.    They turn what would otherwise be clashes of prestige and power into acceptance of shared rules of good behaviour.     Above all, only the willing co-operation of at least the world’s leading powers can address many of the global challenges.    Shared institutions make such co-operation more credible and more sustained.

Fifth, solid alliances matter.    The coalition of the willing has proved a slender reed.    Even the UK is unlikely to let itself be dragged into a venture similar to Iraq again, in which it is fully committed but has no influence on how policy is executed.    Yet the US has proved unable to achieve what it seeks unaided.    Fixed alliances are indeed constraints, but they are also means of securing commitments.

The foreign policy of Bush, arguably the worst president since the US became a world power, has come to a dead end.    The big question is what happens now.    For disastrous though it has been, alternatives could be as bad.    A “realism” entirely indifferent to western values would be one blunder.    Still worse would be a retreat from the war in Iraq into isolationism and from openness into protectionism.

The world will not accept an American master.    But it will still welcome American leadership, provided that leadership takes due account of the interests of others and rests on the values that the US has itself spread to the world.

Wednesday, December 06, 2006

New Results for Barry/Berrys

New Y-DNA48-60 marker results have arrived for William A. Barry,#79, and are now posted.    Unfortunately, those results for his match, C.E. Berry, #77, did not arrive with his.    We're hoping for some difference in the Y-Refine37to67 upgrade to indicate that it is of some use in a genealogical sense.

FTDNA Xmas Special ! !

FTDNA has just made available to each surname project a $130 gift in the form of six (6) Gift Certificates which may be used for NEW DNA testing.   We have

Two (2)   $30 certificates for Y-DNA37 or 67
Two (2)   $20 certificates for Y-DNA25
Two (2)   $15 certificates for mtDNA

which may be used according to the following terms:

a) Not valid in conjunction with any other promotion or offer
b) Each gift certificate is to be used with one new test kit, according to what is marked in      the certificate
c) Kits must be ordered and paid for by December 31st, 2006
d) Not valid for test upgrades, add-ons or Y-DNA12.

If you've been considering testing, you should jump on this right away.   It will be first come, first served.

With the gift certificates, your kit prices are:

67 markers              $239
37 markers              $159
25 markers              $128
mtDNA                     $114
mtDNAPlus             $174
mtFullSequence      $480

If you'd like to get in on this, get in touch with me right away.   As I said, First come, First served.   Click here to email me.

Monday, December 04, 2006

This Just In!

Y-DNA48-60 marker results have just arrived for Jonathan K. Berry, #12, John Edward Berry, #55, and Todd Andrew Berry, #72, completing their 67 marker orders.   No additional 'distances' have shown up except for Todd in the Berry Plain folks.

Too early to tell how helpful these additional markers are going to be.    Unfortunately, it's going be necessary for several members in one family to upgrade before we will be able to see how well it might discriminate between branches.

Please remember to click the button on your FTDNA personal page to upload your new markers to ySearch.

Sunday, December 03, 2006

New Member

Melissa Berry McCarter has just signed up her father, Robert Osmand Berry, #43, as our 85th member.   Robert had been tested to 12 markers a little over a year ago.    His markers are now posted on the website, as well as his yAncestry.     Although Robert matches Robert Leo Berry, #75, 12/12 and there is some similarity to their ancestor's locations, I have chosen to maintain both as 'unassigned' until more markers confirm or deny the match.   Robert, #43, also matches a number of other folks 11/12, and any of those are 'possibilities'.
   We'll see.

Saturday, December 02, 2006

Current Test Prices

Hopefully, some of the viewers to this site are considering DNA testing or upgrades for themselves or others.    I thought it might be helpful to review the current prices for the various tests offered by FTDNA, and later compare their mtDNA prices with those of Argus Biosciences.    Remember, Christmas is coming!

First, FTDNA's current Y-DNA price list.   These are all group prices.

If starting with the 12-marker test kit at                      $99
     upgrade 12 to 25-marker additional                       *$49*     (total $148)
     then upgrade to 37-marker additional                   *$49*     (total $197)
     then upgrade to 67-marker additional                   *$99*     (total $296)
     upgrade 12 to 37-marker additional                      *$99*      (total $198)
     then upgrade to 67-marker additional                   *$99*      (total $297)
     upgrade 12 to 67-marker additional                     *$189*     (total $288)

If starting with the 25-marker test kit at                     $148
     upgrade 25 to 37-marker additional                       *$49*     (total $197)
     then upgrade to 67-marker additional                   *$99*     (total $296)
     go from 25 to 67-marker additional                      *$148*     (total $296)

If starting with the 37-marker test kit at                      $189
     then upgrade to 67-marker additional                    *$99*     (total $288)

If starting with the 67-marker test kit                          $269

I recommend that at least 25 markers be tested, preferably 37.

Next, FTDNA group rates and Argus standard rates for mtDNA tests.

FTDNAArgus Biosciences
mtDNAPlus$189Hypervariable Regions I & II$125
mtFullSequence$495Complete mtDNA$345

Test definitions -
mtDNA = HVR1 (base pairs 16001 to 16569)
mtDNAPlus = HVR1 and HVR2, base pairs 16001 to 16569 and 00001 to 00574, for a total of 1143 base pairs.
mtFullSequence = entire mitochondrial genome (16,569 bases).

Hypervariable Regions I & II = base pairs 16000 to 16569 and 00001 to 00575, for a total of 1145 base pairs.
Complete mtDNA = entire mitochondrial genome (16,569 bases).

The image on the left illustrates the mtDNAPlus and Hypervariable Regions I & II tests.    The image on the right illustrates the mtFullSequence and Complete mtDNA tests.

images courtesy Argus Biosciences

Friday, December 01, 2006


"The upgrade to 67 markers (i.e., an additional 30, mostly slow-moving markers) appears to do an excellent job of shaking off accidental convergence." - Lawrence Mayka

All our outstanding FTDNA orders are now officially delinquent.
Product Test Name Batch EstResultDate
Y-Refine37to67 DYS434 Jim,#7 174 11/27/2006
DYS435 DYS435 174 11/27/2006
DYS485 DYS485 174 11/27/2006
DYS495 DYS495 174 11/27/2006
DYS643 DYS643 174 11/27/2006
Y-Refine25to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers Jonathan,#12 168 10/16/2006
Y-Refine25to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers Walter,#34 167 10/09/2006
Y-Refine37to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers John E.,#55 168 10/16/2006
Y-Refine37to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers Todd,#72 169 10/23/2006
Y-Refine37to67 Y-DNA38-47 Markers C. E.,#77 170 10/30/2006
Y-DNA67 Y-DNA38-47 Markers Kenneth, #80 173 11/29/2006
Y-DNA48-60 Markers 173 11/29/2006
Y-DNA61-67 Markers 173 11/29/2006
Y-Refine37to67 Y-DNA48-60 Markers William A.,#79 170 10/30/2006

A very valuable link to Ancestral DNA References compiled for an Anthropology 3710 course offered by California State University, Hayward.   Contains links to lectures, audio, video and pdf files of scholarly papers.