Thursday, May 31, 2007

Blue Results

New results!    Grant, #93, received the first 25 markers yesterday of his Y-DNA67 order.    He is haplogroup G2, as are the Swiss Beerys, Michael, #69, and SMGF Biery/Pomeroy.    Although Michael is his closest match, Grant is nevertheless a genetic distance of 16 from Michael at 25 markers.    Not related.

Blue Moon

Ever wondered just what the reference to something that happened infrequently as "once in a blue moon" really meant?    Well, tonight's* the night, at 9:04 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, and here's where you can learn about the term, 'blue moon'.

*Unless you live in Europe, Africa, Asia or Australia where you'll have to wait until June 30 for your 'blue moon'.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Vandalia - day 1

The annual Vandalia Gathering is a FREE celebration of the traditional arts, music, dance, stories, crafts and foods of West Virginia.    The Cultural Center and State Capitol Complex grounds play host to this expanding family-style gathering each year on Memorial Day weekend where all events take place beneath the golden dome of the State Capitol in Charleston, West Virginia.    I would usually have some film of the contests but I didn't spend so much time watching them this year.    I spent a good deal of my time in the jam tent playing so I don't even have any good film or photos there.    You'll just have to take my word for the fact that there was something going on for everyone.

I did get a photo of Senator Byrd's fiddle in the lobby of the Virginia State Theater where a free concert was offered each evening.
And I did film some of those acts.    This first one is Johnny Staats and Robert Shafer, both finger picking champions, showing some of their stuff -

And this one is my friends Ruthy Randall and John Morris, a Clay County fiddler, playing Elsick's Farewell -

Additional 'official' photos may be seen here.

Only West Virginia residents are allowed to enter the Vandalia Gathering contests and for those who might be interested, here are the first day's contest winners:

Youth Fiddle (age 15 and under)

1st place ($75) - Ray Cossin, Mt. Alto
2nd place ($50) - Jerrica Hilbert, St. Albans
3rd place ($25) - Arianna Macy, Charleston

Fiddle (under age 60)

1st place ($400) - Chance McCoy, Martinsburg
2nd place ($250) - Dan Kessinger, St. Marys
3rd place ($150) - Zack Fanok, Morgantown
4th place ($75) - Ray Cossin, Mt. Alto
5th place ($50) - Jerrica Hilbert, St. Albans

Senior Fiddle (age 60 and over)

1st place ($400) - Lester McCumbers, Nicut
2nd place ($250) - Gerry Milnes, Elkins
3rd place ($150) - Boyd Phillips, Elkins
4th place ($75) - Don Jones, Scott Depot
5th place ($50) - Elmer Rich, Morgantown

Mandolin (all ages)

1st place ($400) - Chris Davis, Ona
2nd place ($250) - Steve Acord, Fairdale
3rd place ($150) - Dan Kessinger, St. Marys
4th place ($75) - Robin Kessinger, St. Albans
5th place ($50) - John Putnam, Looneyville

Bluegrass Banjo (all ages)

1st place ($400) - Brandon Green, Sophia
2nd place ($250) - Ben Harrington, Artie
3rd place ($150) - Doug Cossin, Mt. Alto
4th place ($75) - Andrew Kidd, Hurricane
5th place ($50) - Zack Life, Murraysville

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Not just a young man's game -

My son, Jon, likes to fancy himself the connoisseur of adventures gastronomique.    I'm here to tell you that his claim is not only tenuous, but most certainly nonexclusive!

His mom and I tend to plan our various sojourns so as to pass by certain venues at appropriate times for exploring their offerings.    Our trip last Thursday from Winchester to Charleston, WV, was no exception and we arrived at Bob's Hot Dogs in Elkins, WV, at noontime.To discover a broad selection of delectible choices-I chose the mushroom swiss with homefries-Mm-m-m-m-m-Yes, there is a hotdog in there.

Jon does have an advantage, though.    He's still young enough not to be plagued with those dreaded 'senior moments'.    As an example, on our return yesterday we stopped at The Donut Shop in Buckhannon, WV, for a maple donut and a pepperoni roll.    Did I think to photograph and report on my treasures?    Nope, sorry.    I just enjoyed them.    I'll try to remember to share with you the next time through.

Thursday, May 24, 2007

* * * HIATUS * * *

We leave this morning for the Vandalia Gathering in Charleston, WV.    The Gathering is sponsored by the West Virginia Division of Culture and History every year over the Memorial Day weekend celebrating the heritage and culture of the Appalachians in general and West Virginia in particular.    All activities are free and you all are welcome.   

So we don't forget. . . .

     In the four years and two months since we invaded Iraq on March 20, 2003

               3,434 U.S. service members have been killed,

                    25,242 U.S. service members have been wounded, in

                         "W"'s War.

                            "When a man don’t use good judgment it’s the innocent who pays"

                                                                                                                             -- Echo Mountain

Click here to Think Peace

Wednesday, May 23, 2007

67 Markers, again

Since we now have 14 folks in the Project who have tested to 67 markers, I decided to see what a cladogram of those folks might reveal.    This is partially to scale and partly not.    in each of the groups comprising a genealogically related family (where you can see the individual marker differences named), it is to scale.    But, as you can see, there is some considerable distance between some of the families (60 markers, in one instance) and in that respect, it is not to scale. -Each time I do one of these it lays out a little differently.    I don't understand why.

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

Learn from the Source
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Learn from the Source.

Happy Birthday, Susan!

Sunday, May 20, 2007

Orange Co., revisited

Well, it sure looked to me like Ken, #83, was going to make a more interesting cladogram than it turned out -Now that's not that much different from what it was before Ken's results came in -Here's a current 37 marker Genetic Distance table -For easy reference, here's the Orange Co. Berry markers, and here's their yAncestry.

I don't really study this family so I hope this new information helps those that do.

Saturday, May 19, 2007

Promises made, promises broken

Well, I'm going to have to renege on my promise.    I told you that I thought that Ken's, #83, and Artie's, #90, Y-DNA26-37 results would come in together.    Well, they did.    Last evening.

Problem is  -  Artie continues to match exactly Sterling, #5, jim, #7, Keith, #37, and Cameron, #58, in the Augusta/Washington Co. Berrys.    What's wrong with that, you ask?    Well, I told you that when Artie's Y-DNA26-37 markers came in I'd do another Augusta/Washington Co. Berry cladogram.

It wouldn't do any good.    Might as well just add his name to the list of the four of us on this one.Further problem is, I'm not sure that I could in good conscience recommend to Artie that he upgrade to 67 markers.    Three of us have done that in the Augusta/Washington Co. Berry family and notwithstanding having some differences in the first 37 markers, none of us differed on the final 30.    What to do?

But as perplexing as Artie's markers are, Ken's are just that interesting.    He has differences in these last 12 markers from each of the other five members of the Orange Co. Berrys.    I can hardly wait to see what the Orange Co. Berry cladogram looks like.    Stay tuned.

In the meantime, however, Artie should upload his new markers and Ken all his markers to YSearch by going to their FTDNA personal pages and under the Y-DNA Matches tab, clicking the line that says, "Click here to upload the additional markers to".

Friday, May 18, 2007

yes, we have more results

This time it was John, #91, whose Y-DNA12 results were reported yesterday, originally estimated for June 8 in batch 202.    From all appearances John would seem to be a Culpeper Co. Berry.    I've included his yAncestry with the Culpeper Co. Berrys with John labeled a
** possible ** since he has no paper connection and has tested only 12 markers.    This is one of those times when an upgrade to at least 37 markers is a necessity.

The Culpeper Co. Berrys are a curious lot.    There are eight of them plus one that we've hijacked from SMGF.    And they haven't really discovered a common ancestor.    In fact, the line that extends back furthest is the SMGF line.    Culpeper Co. Berry's yAncestry.

This is also illustrated by their 37 marker cladogram on which everyone seems to be connected to someone as yet undiscovered.

Thursday, May 17, 2007

yes, we do have results

Artie's, #90, Y-DNA1-25 results of his Y-DNA37 order came in yesterday, almost a month before the Est. Result Date.    This leaves his Y-DNA26-37 portion still outstanding and I sort of expect that it and Ken's, #83, Y-Refine25to37 order, both in batch 201, will arrive at the same time since they're the same markers.

You may recall that Artie is my half-3rd cousin and an Augusta/Washington Co. Berry.    Needless to say, since that family is so well represented in the Project with 15 participants, there were plenty of matches!    Nine 25/25 matches and five 24/25 matches.    When his Y-DNA26-37 markers come in I'll do another cladogram to see if that tells us anything more.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007


We had the good fortune last Saturday to be invited to an 'informal' Critton Hollow String Band performanceand jam afterwards.    The weather was a little threatening but looking at the radar it looked like the line of thunderstorms would arrive at our destination about the same time we would, but that it would be clear after they passed.    They did and we were able to enjoy the music and a bit of a jam, but . . . .    Funny thing about thunderstorms, they have a way of popping up on rather short notice -- and our jam was cut short by thunder and big lightning.

I filmed a little of the Critton Hollow performance, for your enjoyment.

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

new participant

We have a new participant.    Mark Berry, #94, is our 99th participant.    Mark is a Genographic transfer which means that he comes in with his first 12 markers already tested.    From his FTDNA distance analysis it would almost appear that he ought to match some of those listed.

Here are the allele values for Mark and those others listed -

But, as we can see here, although Mark is a distance of only 2 in 12 markers from several others, and 3 from the rest, no relationship is suggested -

And finally, our favorite, the infamous Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor -

Would more markers help?    It would be possible but doubtful.    It would almost require that the next 13 markers match another exactly or that the next 25 markers be a distance of only one, or at most, 2, from another.

Whether his yAncestry (hopefully soon forthcoming) suggests a relationship to another of our participants or not might be the determinant in the decision whether to seek more markers.

Monday, May 14, 2007

Fill in Information Source on Research Log
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Fill in Information Source on Research Log

Sunday, May 13, 2007

mother's day

Sincere condolences to the mothers of the 3,394 U.S. service members who have been killed in

                                                                      "W"'s War.

Saturday, May 12, 2007

saturday morn

The balance of BJ's, #88, 37 markers were reported yesterday.    Essentially no change.    Removed any thought that there might be a genealogical relationship with anyone already tested.    BJ's results were very prompt.    His kit was received by FTDNA on 4/11 and his results were back by 5/11.    Of course, it didn't hurt at all that it was returned to FTDNA in the nick of time for immediate shipment to the lab.

Also, David's, #57, DeepSNP-R1b results were reported.    As far as FTDNA tests he is R1b1c.    Kenneth, #80, another Culpeper Co. Berry, who is 3 distant from David at 67 markers has previously tested R1b1c9* using additional SNPs offered by EthnoAncestry.

Friday, May 11, 2007

happy birthday

Wow!    It was a year ago that I wrote my first blog post.    This is my 269th post.    I can't imagine that there was really that much to talk about.    Probably wasn't.    Sort of like giving a guy a microphone.    You can't get him to shut up and you can't get it away from him.

But we do have results!    BJ, #88, in batch 200 had Y-DNA1-25 results returned of his Y-DNA37 order.    Haplogroup R1b1 with no Berry matches.    This is a somewhat inexact science but as best I can tell it looks like BJ represents the 46th separate and unrelated to each other Berry family among our 90 reported Y-DNA participants.    Who would have imagined so many unrelated Berry families?

Thursday, May 10, 2007

Select a Record from the Catalog
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As I may have mentioned before, we're in the DNA doldroms.    Here's the next in our series of short films on the family history research process.    If you'd like to review the film just preceding this one, click here.

Select a Record from the Catalog

Wednesday, May 09, 2007

Searching SMGF for mtDNA sequences

Adapted from a GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list post by Ann Turner

Assuming that you don't have any mtDNA results from other places.

Use the Search by Surname option for the rarest surname in your maternal line (born before 1900), leaving the section for "Values" clear.

On the data entry screen, enter "Other" for DNA Testing Company, {your rarest surname} for the surname, and clear the "Values" section.

If your {rarest} surname is rare enough, when you click on Search, the results show where you differ from the CRS, e.g. if for location 16209, the faint font below shows the CRS value.    You can see the differences from the CRS.

If your {rarest} surname is not quite so rare, you may see several results.    Look for the result on which the matrilineal names (listed beneath the result) match yours.    Click on the 'Pedigree' symbol to the left of that result to determine that it is, indeed, yours.

Print out that screen, then click on Search Again.    This time fill in some non-CRS values.    In theory, there could be 3 other possible substitutions for a T (C or G or A), but in practice, the vast majority of substitutions will be C.    You can search the GENEALOGY-DNA mailing list archives using the keywords 'transitions transversions' for more background on why this is so, but the substitutions will generally be back and forth between these pairs:

C <-> T
G <-> A

On the other hand, if an item showing is 315.1, for example, with no CRS value below it.    That means that you have an insertion compared to the CRS (practically everybody does have this, as the CRS has the rare version there).    This insertion is in a stretch of C's, so you have 315.1C.

When you have entered those non-CRS values in HVR1 and HVR2, then search again.    This time you should be a perfect match, with all pink squares and the bases from your query in a bold font.

Now you can go back and Search by Differences instead of Search by Surname.    If you allow up to two differences, you may have many more matches.    Some of those show purple squares, where *they* differ from the CRS but you don't (faint font).

Since ALL of you should have tested with SMGF, if any of you would like me to do this search for you, drop me an email containing your matrilineal surnames similar to our yAncestry listings but including 'place of birth' for each that you know.

Tuesday, May 08, 2007


We have a new mtDNA participant, Crystal Benita Sutton-Johnson, #m5, whose grandmother's maiden name was Berry.    She is a Genographic Project transfer and her mtDNA is haplogroup L1b.

My announcement of an SMGF upload the other day was a bit premature.    They just did announce it yesterday.    Apparently it was already a fact when I stumbled upon it, however, because I see nothing there now that I didn't then report on.

Sunday, May 06, 2007

80th Shenandoah Apple Blossom Festival

SunTrust 10K Race

We began Saturday morning, bright and early, with a 10k foot race.    Some took it more seriously than others.
One strollerTwo strollersThree strollers

Grand Feature Parade

Both this parade and the Fireman's parade, as you might have seen from one of yesterday's videos, come up the street toward us and then turn away at our corner.    I tried to catch the flavor of it with some snippets.One of the problems is that folks who live on the parade route use this as an opportunity to entertain.    When you go to visit you often miss 'good stuff' in the parade.    I missed the opportunity to film a wagon carrying three VERY LARGE tigers going by.    The circus is also in town.


The event is obviously run by persons of discrimination and good taste.When our children were small we didn't want them going to the midway by themselves so we told them we'd all go there at the end of the Grand Feature Parade.    That became a family tradition so that now, even with our oldest grandchild in his second year of college and our youngest about to enter high school, we all still do it.    Here goes -This was the downtown walking mall where I usually walk my dogs.    I don't think we'll try it today.

Saturday, May 05, 2007

The Fireman's Bloom

Well, don't say I didn't warn you.    Yesterday was the Fireman's Parade.

Here are the people waiting -and the vendors getting ready -Oops!I'm sure it's the biggest or the oldest or the ......est, I don't know which -- maybe all.Here's the view from our upstairs window -
And here's what this parade is all about -and another variety -But what's this?Here's part of the family watching the parade -And the objects of their attention.

And I learned something this evening.    You don't take fireworks photos without a tripod.

Tomorrow.    The Grand Feature Parade.

Friday, May 04, 2007

SMGF upload?

Either this was a very minor upload to SMGF or I haven't yet discovered what the main thrust of it was.    I've reviewed the Berry entries and have discovered no additional Berrys listed there beyond the 14 we already knew about.    In additon, I only found additional markers posted for four of us.    Jim #7, Dennis #30, Dana #35, and John #39 seem to have the only new data, i.e., values for DYS464.    Each of us had the four values for that allele added, and no more; each already had had those values from other sources; and the SMGF values confirmed the prior values in every respect.

Thursday, May 03, 2007

Shenandoah Apple Blossom Festival

Every year at this time this town goes through its annual rite-of-passage called the Shenandoah Apple Blossom Festival.    This year is the 80th.    This is a big deal for a lot of people around here.    Two big parades, fireworks, luncheons, dances for all ages, bluegrass, antique car show, a queen with a coronation, a 10k race and too many other things to even try to remember.    But, even with all that, or perhaps because of it, if it weren't for grandkids, we'd split.

As it is, you can expect to see several photos of the festivities over the next several posts.    Sorry.

But today I promised you a 'pipeline' update.    Here it is:
Product Test Name Batch EstResultDate
DeepSNP-R1b DSNP-R1b David#57 200 05/28/2007

Y-Refine25to37 Y-DNA26-37 Ken#83 201 06/06/2007

Y-DNA37 Y-DNA1-12 B.J.#88 200 06/08/2007
Y-DNA67 Y-DNA1-12 Grant#93 203 06/29/2007
Y-DNA37 Y-DNA1-12 Arthur#90 201 06/15/2007
Y-DNA12 Y-DNA1-12 John#91 202 06/08/2007

DeepSNP-R1b DSNP-R1b Peter#56 201 06/04/2007