Friday, February 29, 2008

A   l-o-o-o-o-o-ng   dry spell

My apologies to those of you who come back day after day hoping for something new in this space.    I think that I must use a little restraint when it comes to campaigning, railing against the war and posting home videos, so I rely somewhat on DNA occurrences, hopefully Berry DNA occurrences.    Well, as many of you have noticed, we've been somewhat lacking in any DNA occurrences lately.    Unfortunately, things aren't looking to rosy in the not-too-distant future, either.

Here's our 'pipeline' -As you see, we don't 'expect' anything from it until the end of next month (March).

In addition, we are also waiting for the return of several kits -All except John's have been out longer than you might expect so if any of you here thought you had mailed your kit back in and were just waiting for results -- it hasn't arrived at FTDNA.    Let me know and I'll try to follow up on it for you.

In the meantime, those of you who have been hoping that 'maybe' cousin would test, this might be a good time to do something about it.

Tuesday, February 26, 2008


Today would have been my dad's 100th birthday.    He died July 15, 1995 at age 87 years.    Dad published a weekly newspaper for most of his adult life, the Mt. Adams Sun, published from 1939 until 1968 in Bingen, Klickitat Co., Washington.    Bingen was and is a town of 600 folks situated in the Columbia Gorge midway between Mt. Hood and Mt. Adams.

A great place to grow up and a great dad!

Sunday, February 24, 2008

Si Se Puede

Saturday, February 23, 2008

Berry mtDNA, again

I don't give mtDNA a lot of time because I haven't yet figured out how to make it work for me, genealogically speaking.    We now have 17 participants who have mtDNA tested and their results are listed on our mtDNA Results page.

Here's our mutation summary table -
and our mtDNA genetic distance table -I should mention that the genetic distance tool only measures those who have tested both HVR1 and HVR2.

In the past I've been able to generate a cladogram for those having both HVR1 and HVR2 results.    Don't seem to be able to manage that today.    The application keeps telling me I'm not comparing enough sequences -- but I am.    If I can get it figured out before this goes completely out of date I'll post the cladogram here.

I did -
Otherwise, it'll be relegated to the mtDNA Distances page.

Thursday, February 21, 2008

So far, so good

John, #105, has just had the first 12 markers of his Y-DNA67 order returned and, although 12 markers can't be determinative, so far he matches the Spartanburg Co., SC Berrys, as expected.

Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Lunar eclipse tonight

Don't miss it!    Wake the kids!    Set the VCRs!    This will be the last total lunar eclipse until the night of December 20–21, 2010!    As we know, a lunar eclipse occurs when the earth passes between the Sun and the Moon, casting its' shadow on the latter.

The lunar eclipse is easily and safely observed with the naked eye but much more interesting through binoculars or a telescope.    Ideally timed for continental U.S. viewing, the eclipse will begin at about 8:45 p.m. EST, with totality beginning about 10:00 p.m. EST and lasting 52 minutes.    It will occur very close to the planet Saturn and the slightly dimmer star Regulas in the constellation Leo.

All charts and photos courtesy Sky & Telescope where a complete explanation of the phenomenon and this eclipse in particular may be found.    For a more detailed explanation, read the NASA account here.    An interesting graphic representation may be seen at Shadow & Substance.

Monday, February 18, 2008

New guy

Well, we have another new guy.    So far a mystery but I'm hoping to have his yAncestry soon.   Between the writing and the publishing, John sent in his yAncestry and it is now posted on the 'Unassigned' (temporarily, I hope) page.    He is John G. Berry, #113, our 118th participant.    He's also savvy enough to have ordered 37 markers so that will help identify his 'family'.

Including John's, we now have five kits out waiting to be returned to FTDNA and these two returned and 'in process'

Sunday, February 17, 2008

The woods

Hunting season is finally over and my dogs and I can go back into the woods.    Actually it was over sometime last month but we weren't here to celebrate it.

We have a little trail we follow from the cabin about a mile back into the woods to the powerline.   

Lots to explore on the way -
Here's my honey.    Phantom's in her 12th year and she's slowing down a little -
She's a sweetie.

And then there's Edn, Mr. Motion -
He's a clown.

On our way home -

Thursday, February 14, 2008

American Idol?

Not a show that I watch  -   well, maybe until this season.    This year one of the final 12 boys is Colton David Berry from Fishersville, Virginia, a Madison Co. Berry, son of James and Sandra Berry and 6G Grandson of John Berry and Jemima.

Colton has been performing since age 6.    Instead of a back-yard tree house, at 12 he asked his dad to build a back-yard stage for him.

Although young in age, he's had a long career.    He has been seen in productions of The Wiz, Aida and Beauty and the Beast with ShenanArts.    He also directed and appeared in Little Shop of Horrors and Jekyll and Hyde with Front Row Center Productions.    Colton recently appeared in Showtime At the Apollo On Tour at Charlottesville’s Paramount Theatre as a soloist and also had the opportunity to sing in France with the French-American Gospel Music Workshop Exchange.    He also performed in Les Misérables with ShenanArts in July 2006.

Tune in and vote.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Palms Memorial

Well, apparently too much time on my hands again, so while I was watching the Potomac Primary election returns last night I formatted the second cemetery that I'd surveyed while I was in Miami.   You recall that the first one was Silver Green.   Later that same day I went to Palms Memorial Cemetery.   Unfortunately, by that time it had started to rain pretty good so I had to take the photos between showers.   I tried to find the Berrys there but didn't find them all.   Here's what I got.     Palms Memorial Cemetery

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Spartanburg Co., SC Berrys

New Results!    The final 12 markers of Donald's, #103, Y-DNA37 order arrived yesterday evening and the Spartanburg Co., SC Berrys lose their '?'.    Clay, #41, still gets only a 'possible' for his 12 marker results combined with a paper trail, but Donald and Wayne, #1, are genetically 'verified' through their common 25 markers even though they don't (yet) have their paper connection.

Donald represents a very real opportunity for this family.    Some may recall that Donald lives in Scotland.    If these folks can somehow collaborate to extend and join their pedigrees . . . !?    In addition, if John's, #105, results, expected perhaps as early as March 14, confirm his research then the Spartanburg Co., SC Berrys are on the move.

Oh, and by the way, Vote.

Alexandria, Virginia - February 10, 2008

Friday, February 08, 2008

We are the ones we've been waiting for . . .

DNA:    Genetic Distance Table for all participants with markers.
              TMRCA Table for all participants with markers.

Thursday, February 07, 2008

English Colony Berrys

Hard on Paul's heels is another new member, Alan Leneau Berry, #112, our 117th member, sponsored by Linda Dail.    What's more, he's the second English Colony Berry to show up in a week!

But before we talk about him, a little housekeeping.    Since we now have members tested at several different labs, I've tried to make certain that when we compare markers we're really comparing apples with apples.    To this end I've done my best to convert all markers to FTDNA convention.    I believe I have but if any of you, when you look at yours, think some ought to be changed, drop me an email so we can examine them.

Now back to our original subject.    Here's our yResults marker table and here's a genetic distance table for the English Colony Berrys -
Plus, our favorite -

Wednesday, February 06, 2008

New Jersey Berry?

I wonder if we've been too quick to say that Paul, #111, doesn't match the New Jersey Berrys?    Apparently based on Paul's DYS448 null, FTDNA's TiP says no one is closer than a genetic distance of 19.    But, when we use Whit Athey's Y-Utility it shows a definite relationship.It apparently ignores the null.

Sure wish we had Paul's yAncestry.    So far, no response from him.

Oh yeah, the obligatory you-know-what -
A Caveat here.    Laurence, #9, has tested 25 markers with FTDNA and the rest are from SMGF.    Ron, #86, tested with Relative Genetics and Paul's markers are from FTDNA.    This means that we only have 24 markers from Laurence and Paul that we can directly compare with one another without being concerned with nomenclature conversions which, frankly, I'm not at all sure of.

Tuesday, February 05, 2008


Paul, #111, showed up early yesterday already having 24 markers reported, his Y-DNA1-12 and his Y-DNA26-37 panels.    19 of his 24 markers (all they had in common) matched Ronald, #86, and the 14 markers he and Laurence, #9, had in common all matched.    He'd be a New Jersey Berry right?    Wrong!

Later yesterday his final Y-DNA13-25 panel of his Y-DNA37 order was reported and his distance from Laurence on the 27 markers they now have in common is 19!!    19!    A lesson to be drawn here about 12 marker matches.    Paul and Laurence had a perfect match at 14 markers and a distance of 19 at 27 markers.

Probably as large as it is, though, because Paul has a null at DYS448.    Now if I could only remember what they've been saying on the DNA-List about nulls.    Wish I had his yAncestry to see if it looks at all like the New Jersey guys'.

Monday, February 04, 2008

Silver Green

Since our DNA results have slowed down I've had a chance to put another cemetery online.    While I was in Miami I took my dogs out for a little run while I surveyed a couple of cemeteries.    The first, Silver Green, is barely a cemetery.    I don't know whether it's just becoming a cemetery or whether it's a fading cemetery.    I'm inclined toward the former interpretation.

Take a look and see what you think.    Silver Green Cemetery.

Saturday, February 02, 2008


Remember that Keith, #107, expected to match the Berry Plain Berrys?    Well, Keith tested with DNA Heritage and I use the SMGF search pages for nomenclature conversion to obtain FTDNA compatible values.    When I had entered his values I thought I'd just take a look to see if he matched anyone who had tested at SMGF.    He did!    He matched Lawrence, #61, a member of the English Colony Berry Family.

As a final test I compared his haplotype with those of both the Berry Plain Berrys and the English Colony Berrys and here are the results -And the obligatory TMRCA -It really wouldn't have surprised us if we had only looked at the English Colony Berry yAncestry for Robert, #43, since Keith's GG Grandfather is Robert's Grandfather.

Friday, February 01, 2008

A Few Miles and a Change of Season

We returned home to Winchester, Virginia about 7 p.m. yesterday evening after two days on the road.    It wasn't too bad a trip but I was glad to get off the road.    Good thing we traveled when we did.    Our traveling weather was very pleasant but we woke up this morning to [another] ice storm.    Not as bad as before but sort of insulting after spending the past month in Florida.

The DNA news is that Keith's, #107, results are back from DNA Heritage and he is R1b.    I'll get his results posted and compared a little later this afternoon but right now I have to go to the bank.